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Andrew was a great help and I feel I've got a good handle on it now.  It's a little daunting trying to lay it out in a useful format, but I at least understand the technical process for getting the data into tables and such.  Thanks for all your help, both of you.
 
Andrew was a great help and I feel I've got a good handle on it now.  It's a little daunting trying to lay it out in a useful format, but I at least understand the technical process for getting the data into tables and such.  Thanks for all your help, both of you.
  
: See what I did with the [[Attack feats]] page, specifically the [[Attack feats#Physical attacks|physical attacks]] section, and replicate that elsewhere. It will make our lives 1,000 times easier down the road, I promise.—[[File:Paizo_Publishing, LLC.png|16px]] [[User:Yoda8myhead|Yoda8myhead]] ([[User talk:Yoda8myhead|talk]]) 20:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
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: See what I did with the [[Attack feats]] page, specifically the [[Attack Feats#Physical attacks|Physical Attacks]] section, and replicate that elsewhere. It will make our lives 1,000 times easier down the road, I promise.—[[File:Paizo_Publishing, LLC.png|16px]] [[User:Yoda8myhead|Yoda8myhead]] ([[User talk:Yoda8myhead|talk]]) 20:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Welcome to Pathfinder Online Wiki! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Paizo Publishing, LLC.png Yoda8myhead (talk) 17:28, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Better use of data

I was just looking at the Attacks tables. I fixed the rest of the tables to be sortable, but I really feel like there needs to be a better way to search them. For example, I would like to be able to search for Cantrips that used the Mage Staff and had the Volatile keyword.

I'm really a data guy at heart, so my first instinct is to get the spreadsheets broken down and put into a normalized database. After that, I'm really not sure what tools are available to access that data, though.

I'm sure I could get up to speed on wikis, but it would probably take me about 6 weeks on my own, and that's if I had the time to spend a few hours every day on it. I'm not sure if this is possible, but I think I could really kickstart the whole thing if I could get in voice chat with one of the admins. I'm not even sure this message is going to be obvious to y'all, but if it is, please let me know if this is something you'd be willing to do, and when a good time would be.

TeamSpeak would work best for me, and our server address is atl01.mainvoice.net:7183. Any time today works, or maybe Wednesday evening if that's better for you.

As far as I know there's no way to integrate SQL databases or other tools of sorting data into the mediawiki framework. If that's something you want to see implemented here, you'll likely need to research it and figure out what needs to happen on your own. We tend to use Skype for chats, which either Aeakett or I can try to make work. Not quite sure what nights this week work for me. What time zone are you in?—Paizo Publishing, LLC.png Yoda8myhead (talk) 18:56, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm in the Central time zone. It may be that I need to build a web application on our site to do what I want.
Building an extension that we can port into the wiki would be ideal, so you might want to look at existing mediawiki extensions and a) see if one already exists for what you want to do and b) familiarize yourself with how extensions work so you can build one within the constraints of the system. Aeakett is likely the best one to talk to about getting extensions added to this wiki, as he's much more adept with the wiki backend than I am.—Paizo Publishing, LLC.png Yoda8myhead (talk) 04:21, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

It's a very complex data model to try to normalize into a database, so that's probably not going to happen quickly.

In the meantime, Stephen Cheney has shared PFO Wiki - Official Data with me, and I'd very much like to get it loaded into the wiki, but I'm completely stumped. If you can walk me through this once, I'm sure I can keep it maintained after that.

Yeah, let me see if I can find some time this weekend to write up a tutorial, though it looks like you're going on it already. I also need to get a bot set up in this wiki to make mass changes to things. Both are on the agenda, but with Gen Con next week, I may not have the time to do much on this (or the other) wiki until the 19th or so.—Paizo Publishing, LLC.png Yoda8myhead (talk) 21:22, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Andrew was a great help and I feel I've got a good handle on it now. It's a little daunting trying to lay it out in a useful format, but I at least understand the technical process for getting the data into tables and such. Thanks for all your help, both of you.

See what I did with the Attack feats page, specifically the Physical Attacks section, and replicate that elsewhere. It will make our lives 1,000 times easier down the road, I promise.—Paizo Publishing, LLC.png Yoda8myhead (talk) 20:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)